It turns out the answer is, something pretty awesome! My hunch is that Orvis isn’t trying to make a profit on this rod at all. I just recently picked up the 8’6” 5wt and I must say it is near perfect. The blank is “Shadow Green” with chestnut wraps, the hardware is black nickel silver and the guides are chrome. It is true $425 is a lot of money. The Recon felt equally as good at 60 feet as it did at 35 feet. The Recon feels nice and light too, – not much to complain about here! It was excellent at 45’ and still really good at 60’. Impressive – nice tight loops that delivered excellent accuracy. The Sage X and Douglas Sky were slightly better here. so what do make per hour? CAN’T WAIT! I was able to test the Sage Foundation four-piece, 9 foot 5 weight fly rod or 590-4 in a variety of settings, both freshwater and saltwater. Sure, if you are an Orvis fan and can afford the new Helios 3F, it does provide a level of performance that’s a big step up from the Recon, both at short and long range. The Sage Foundation Fly Rod handled big articulated streamers, heavy and light nymph rigs, and big dry-dropper rigs very well. Low end rods sell for around $200. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Cookies help us deliver our Services. While it is certainly capable of handling smaller dries to a certain degree, the Foundation wasn’t well suited for those presentations that required a bit more finesse and touch. There are great rods out there that are really good quality and at a bargan price. For a rod that is going to fish well close and far, one that will fish dries and streamers you need to get a different rod. What cost money is the skilled labor to build it. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. and it turned out to be a very good choice. The Redington Classic Trout / Tempt is an awesome deal of a rod, especially at the 4 weight class, and for small streams, big flies (yellow stone fly and Salmonfly patterns) it is hard to beat the Redington in a 5 weight if fishing in close. 23 comments / Posted on January 13, 2015 / by Louis Cahill. This is what cost it full honors, but all in all I liked it in close. The Pulse is a much much faster rod. It would have made a really interesting mid-priced shootout. I lost a little accuracy moving out past 60 ft. Impressive power when you lay into it, however it was not as effortless as the other top rods. Orvis Helios, Hydros, Access, and Superfin rods are made in Vermont. Black never goes out of style and the FOUNDATION looks good. Now though I spend all summer fishing in Montana and I sported for a 6wt Recon thinking I wanted a streamer/foam gun for some of our waters like the Missouri. It's not a tuned down ONE or Accel, but a totally new action that's one of the best I've seen. In this case, American skilled labor. The Pulse is a much much faster rod. 9. I think it’s a good thing. When I was knee high to a plum I use to ski on wooden boards and get to the rivers and mountains in a wagon pulled by my mule Ol #7. I owned one years ago. It’s a very light rod by market standards. The Sage Foundation perfectly fits the definition of a versatile trout rod. I could not get the same kind of performance as the Helios 3F or the Sage X at extreme long range. It can deliver tiny dry flies delicately and it can toss big nymphs efficiently. When you take into consideration that the FOUNDATION like any SAGE rod is covered by a lifetime warranty, it’s hard to beat the FOUNDATION in its price range. I just cast the Recon in a 9FT. It has been selling strong and performing well ever since. You should really enjoy that rod. And all things considered in today’s world the Recon is a bargain. Jumping Gee Hosa Fat!!! I do not sell off or give away my tackle. Decent feel but the accuracy of the Helios 3F was far better. I'm looking at purchasing a new rod and am stuck. Honestly, up until a couple of years ago I didn’t think much about Orvis fly rods. Armstrong Spring Creek on the O’Hair Ranch. It tied the Sage X and BVK for the lightest overall weight, and the swing weight is extremely light too, only a half a point behind the winners. I use it for some smaller streamers but mostly dropper combos. Tune in as Jared provides step-by-step instructions to tie this productive wet fly. "I don't know what the conversations were like at Orvis when this rod was being developed but I'd be shocked if no one expressed concerns that it was too good for the money." Performance at 35 feet:  19 points out of 20. I have the Recon 5 weight 9 foot freshwater rod. It has always been in contention for the best mid-priced rod in our other Shootouts. We didn’t get to nymph this rod, but because it’s so forgiving, you’ll be able to open up your loop without any issues. The Foundation has decent accuracy, but lacks the pinpoint precision of the Orvis. What reel (Orvis or otherwise) would balance best with the Recon 5 wt 9′ in terms of weight and cost? Swing this fly on a single-handed fly rod or a two-handed Trout Spey rod for maximum success. “What can I expect for 425?” I would expect not only a good rod but also a fly reel included in that price. For tight water I have a 7' 3wt superfine that I like, slow and delicate. I agree with you totally. It’s odd to say this, but the matte black finish of the SAGE Foundation makes the rod pop. (FYI, I have made many rods and understand the process.) One of the best rods in the Shootout for throwing long, you’ll easily be able to reconnoiter the edge of the bonefish flats with this rod.